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Kill 'em all


By: heretic (Aashish Dutta Koirala)

February 08, 2007 | Join the discussion (28)

I write on impulse. That's just what I do. "Thinking things through", I believe, takes away from the spirit of the thought.


Anyway, after a short glimpse at the daily news, I headed out to queue up for fuel for my bike. As I was in the queue, I got an impulse: the need for common people to form a vigilant, fourth (or fifth, or sixth) front, because this is the group that always suffers no matter who is taking up arms or taking to the streets. This is a common impulse that many people get. Most of these people discuss things like these over morning (or afternoon) tea. I, on the other hand, impulsively banged out a blog and put it up here.

So, I put in a little bit of sociology 101 and a little of what I thought was some subtle satire. It obviously didn't work. From what I gather from the comments, it came out like I was some madman ranting on about going around killing people. There is nothing more unfortunate for someone who's putting his ideas out there than to be misinterpreted, not just because of how it might affect him in society, but also because it is a reflection on his writing skills. In any case, my apologies to people who were offended.

I would like readers, however, to focus on one particular comment: the one by pawan. Please read the original text of my blog and then this comment. I end my blog with a note on what "such a vigilant force" would do. As an example of groups it would strike at, I list two separatist militia groups -- groups, which I believe, have nothing whatsoever to do with the good of the people they claim to be fighting for.

Now:
Notice how HE turns it into a racist remark against all Madhesis and Newars.
Notice how HE brings up "Final Solution".
Notice how HE brings up KKK.
Notice how HE brings up Adolf Hitler.

People like these are ones you have to be careful of: people that like to put words in your mouth. You may accuse me of being an anti-social element, but remember: I am all talk. The real "troublemakers", as you can see, are much more subtle and lurk in the shadows.

With that said, here's the original text of the blog:

If you put two people in a room, conflict is bound to arise sooner or later. They WILL get into an argument, they WILL start a debate and they WILL start to fight. This fight may turn physical or may subside and may even turn into affinity for one another. It may end up with one or both of them getting killed. Conflict is an integral part of human nature. War, therefore, is unfortunate, but a part of civilization. Similarly, killing may be considered wrong, but is instinctive to all of us.

For the record, the Maoist war has ended. Its remnants still remain, however. A lot of atrocities still occur either by the Maoists or in the name of the Maoists. Also, the conflicts in the Terai region have escalated to quite a degree. If you are a pahadi in Terai, you are either a normal citizen – which is synonymous to a potential victim for the separatists; or you are a member of the pahadi pratikar group – which means you go around killing the separatists and people who look like them.

In the urban areas, crime has been rising steadily. This is a period of absolute lawlessness. If you truly want to, then this is the ideal time to kill someone and get away with it. If you’re having financial problems (or just want to get richer), this is the ideal time to rob or steal from someone. If your lust is out of control, this is the ideal time to rape someone. If you’re simply in a bad mood, this is the ideal time to beat someone up.

The bottom line then is: the average citizen that wants to work and get by is not safe by any means. He is a sitting duck. This, then, is the ideal time for a vigilant force to rise out of the masses. This is the time for the average Joe to arm and train himself and be ready to truly defend himself. This is the time to use the lawlessness that prevails for good: to protect yourself and your family.

It is high time that average people started taking up arms. The law is not going to protect you – so why abide by it?

If someone tries to steal from you or rob you, kill that someone.
If someone tries to kill you, definitely kill that someone.
If someone tries to assault you in any way, kill that someone.

Kill ‘em all.

If you see terrorists, kill them.
If you see a member of the Terai mukti morcha, the Newar mukti morcha, or any racist group preaching absurd separatism, kill them.
If you see people using religion to spread hatred, kill them.

Be preemptive. Strike before they have a chance.
Kill ‘em all!!



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"If you see a member of the Terai mukti morcha, the Newar mukti morcha, or any racist group preaching absurd separatism, kill them."

heretic .. please review your thoughts..

can u define 'racism' ...

please think twice before u abuse such sensitive terms


You need guts to kill someone, do you have that?
Kill'em all.........


If killing is the solution, kill'em all.

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I think this guy is trying to take us back to stone age.
If we were that much "wild", you wont even know the english you are writing this post in. Writing or should I say typing in EU, or even using a computer would be impossible.

Though there is still some wildness in us, which in unusual circumstances, comes out. But what you are saying here is pure absurdity, or should I say a dialogue of a movie.

If you have this much of blind wildness, you wouldn't have been earning a living for yourself, you would have been stealing and killing this very moment.....Whaihaaat


Killing is never the solution to end the killings, is it?

You start killing people blaming them of being racists and terrorists, and pretty soon you end up looking like a terrorists in someone else's eyes....and the endless spiral continues....is that the solution we want ?

“I am prepared to die, but there is no cause for which I am prepared to kill.” - Mahatma Gandhi

P.S. : Thumbs up for that "Wahiyaat", AshishP :D



Dave Mustaine influenced attitude.

But a serious thinker doesn’t buy this attitude at all.
World would have ended decades ago if the world was full of Mustaine heads.
We can’t even conceive a world full of Buddha heads either. Duality exists everywhere and so does the conflict. But killing can never be a solution even if it seems sometimes. Killing itself is the root of conflict.


heretic, i like ur writings most of the times but please stick to writing about movies n music and personal experience.

politics - definately out of bounds for u.


I am happy to learn that Madhesi people of Nepal fought for their rights. Though, some might say that the dominance of People of Indian Origin in mainstream politics of Nepal has crossed all limits, I do not agree to this notion.

The recent protests carried out by JTMM sent shocks and awe to all the political parties. Although it brought Nepal to a grinding halt, it also sent a clear message that Maoists are not the only force. Though many analysts feel that it will lead to ethnic unrest all over the country, I feel that it will only make the Maoists weaker since they’ve always claimed that they represent all the minority groups, and lack of control over these ethnic groups will prove the point otherwise. Weaker Maoists will bring back the much needed balance as the government too will realize that they need not bend backwards for them.

So where will it all end? Perhaps, time will tell otherwise but I strongly feel that it will eradicate the current dominant ethnic group from mainstream politics forever and will certainly bring people who are of different ethnic backgrounds which is the need of the hour.

Although dominance of People of Indian Origin in mainstream politics of Nepal will increase, I feel that law and justice situation will strengthen. If every community fights for their rights it will create environ for healthy politics. When people become passive and tolerate injustice Justice system becomes bias.


Hey heretic,
Seems like you have already thought out about 'Final Solution' for Medhesi and Newar huh. Yet another hot-headed KKK pig? Just remember your god-figure Adolf is still rotting in the hell.


Dovan, I HAVE reviewed my thoughts. I know that you empathize with the plight of the Madhesi people. I would like you to cut through the fog of bullshit that the media has created, however, and understand this when I label the Janatantrik Terai Mukti Morcha as racist:

The Janatantrik Terai Mukti Morcha has nothing to do with the spirit of the Madhesi andolan. The Madhesi andolan is a result of outcries from the Madhesi civil society. The Mukti Morcha may have fueled the fire for their own ulterior motives, but that's all they have done.

The Janatantrik Terai Mukti Morcha is a separatist militia group that is practicing subtle ethnic cleansing in Terai. So, when I call them racists, I think that is an understatement at best.

This applies for all "mukti morcha" groups which are offshoots from the Maoists -- groups that were formed as a result of the Maoist using communalism in order to advance there war. Now it has become an albatross on their neck -- on all our necks.


How cute, you changed the sense--i mean "Thinking things through"--of your original text. What to say EU allowed you to edit, rearrange and finally re-make his 'thoughts'. You can't go anything beyond that level of corrupt intellect.

But hey, may be EU is owned by someone who knows him, so let him made subtle change to subtle meanings. No shame re-making whole thing in the middle of the game. i think they call it cheater.

Besically, heretic has no guts to argue on the forum, instead he went for a re-make.

Anyway, heretic i am not accusing you of being anti-social i am accusing you of being a RECIST PIG.


Hey Dhilung, dude, jaslai je bhane ni don't knock Mustaine yaar, he's a poet of our times...

And pawan, nice try for a "come-back" there but no amount of insult you try to splatter on me is gonna shed the light away from your hidden bigot agenda, you neo-nazi piece of shit. And come back to comment when you've learnt how to spell "basically" and "racist".


Nice try to avoid true question a diversion. don't blame me man, i mean spelling thing. you know i hav't seen english beyond school so next time i will send my comments before i post it here, and do me a flavor editing my comment la.


hey heretic you are well educated so you know how to read thing correctly. do i have to tell you everything?


Yes, Nepalese have not been killed enough to get long lasting peace. We all must have free rule for carrying weapons like in other really democratic countries. We may use the license too for killing such uprisings that can destroy the country from history.


Lets wrap thing up. Main cause of all the mess in country is the communist, the mother of all troublemakers--how could you miss those idiots. So lets not vote these commies anymore. I hate these buggers but i am not going to say anything like you did. KILL EM ALL. I don't understand how could you say such thing to Madhesis and Newars, such a poor fellas'.


Pawan, I do not think you got my point. It is that any races can raise weapons now, not only madhesis and Terai. it is like in Israel,palestine, Shitte Sunni, Protestents,Catholics, Hindu, Buddhists, Sardars, between software companies: imagine wordlink guy shooting mercantile one, and then to hitechvalley.net,..the days are not far. Investment bank will start shooting Himalayan bank and so does Nabil to other. Those days are not far when a company's best fellows are shoot by others. It is like in films: You slay your Captain/brother to become yourself chief of Army/King.


होइन इयु के चाला हो। के heretic लाई मनपरी लेख्न अनि पछि आफु खुसि सम्पादन गर्न छुट दिएकै हो त। के हो इयु को पोलेसी। फेरि लेखको स्तर हेर न, 'सबैलाई मार' भनि ना ना थरीका बकम्फुस र हिंसा भडकाउने सोच लेख्ने अनि पुछार मा ति दुई जाति का नाम जोडने।


Arey pawan, akal ke andhey... for the last time... I'm not lashing out against Madhesis and Newars... I'm against the Terai Mukti Morcha and Newar Mukti Morcha... these are separatist militia groups!!!


ओहो, विद्वान मित्र त रिसाउनु भएछ। बबाल हुने भो। उपद्रो गर्ने भो। जब भारभुरे 'मारो सबको' भन्छन, दुई चार को ज्यान लिई छाडछ। तर जब विद्वानले 'मारो सबको' भन्छन नि उ हिटलरको अवतार लिन्छ र मेलोसेभिच शैली मा ताण्डव मच्चाउन्छ।


Hey guys, can't you see that Heretic is being satirical? And he has a good point: if everyone continues responding by saying to kill this group or that group, everyone will end up looking facist to everyone else and even husbands and wives will start killing each other, more so than they are doing already, anyway.

For example, when I see the videos of the violence in the Tarai, I see the same young faces found in the videos of the Maoists or Jaanajaati liberation movements, except, perhaps, with a notable lack of women.

The truth of the matter is that people have been long exploited all over Nepal. The Shahs and Ranas and their satraps throughout the country built their palaces on the backs of Tamang, Gurung and Magar villagers as well as Tharu and Darai. Now add new pretenders: the GONGOs, the international banks and corporations, new landlords, all building their new palaces for the good of the poor, poor people of Nepal.

I don't doubt that when people have their little republics or cantons, as long as communities and groups remain divided and at each others throats they will be beset by a new set of carpet baggers, little kings and self-appointed leaders.

Begin by asking what we have in common with others and use this as a starting point for building wider unity and action. Otherwise it we'll remain stuck in the same old dialectic of fatalism and fatality allowing a few to take narrow-minded benefit in the name of the many.


I understannd Heretic's frustration. Bloggers here are not rreading the article and are just commenting based on the article title. He has a point and very logical - instead of killing each other forming a group - why not to kill them all so that we do not need to hear about killing any more. Go Heretiv go!


I agree more with heretic rather than Pawan.. We can believe whatever we want to but the bitter reality remains the same.. that is Nepal really doesn't have an effective forum to address grievances--- only way is to make a lot of noise..

If you keep Adolf, Neo-Nazi and Racist Pigs aside, you will come to realize that the country has been plagued by JTMM, NMM, JTF,... and so on and so forth.. If the average citizens, like in US, pick up guns, well we can eradicate all the negative social elements.. how will good triumph over bad if bad can only kill and hurt all the good people while all the good people can only shout or cry in pain??????pawan.. I want answers not disagreements?? what is your solution then??? come on..speak up!!!


And to end it.. at least heretic has a stand.. he has a solution which many might not agree upon but none the less he has a solution.. Pawan.. rather than calling heretic by names, if you present a/ better solution(s) things would see the light of day... Nepal is full of critics, what we need is solution providers..!! Better Solution Providers..


hehehe, interesting! heretic or pawan or whoever it doesn't matter: the human race HAS been killing each other and whatnots since ages and they will continue to do so for ages to come. Killing ain't a sin but a virtue at times. (and it aint just the killing of life but of ideas as well)


Hey Stephen, don't try drag multinationals. They have nothing to with the mess we are talking about. Anyway you are right about one thing. You see 'same faces' and they are maoists. Dino you don't get the point do you? Its not about JMM, JTMM or whatever the main problem is same maoism(and communism). That is where heretic, Stephen, Dino missed the point. Well, if you guys think killing helps then go and kill these commies.


Well if I don't get the point, it becomes your responsibility to make your point better.. so what is the "Maoism(and communism)" problem as your perceive?? and last time I checked all these Mukti Morchas were Maoists or a type of Maoists(Sympathizers/Agaist).. Have you ever been inside their offices?? Do you know what they talk about?? Do you also know that they spread Propagandas?? And do you know what these Propogandas are?? Well, if you truely knew what these Morchas stood for, you'd adjust your position in this discussion..(Soon you will find Morchas Killing each other.. I agree with herectic on kill_em_all before they start Inducting) Don't believe what others tell you.. believe what you truly know and if you don't find out yourself..!!


Well if I don't get the point, it becomes your responsibility to make your point better.. so what is the "Maoism(and communism)" problem as you perceive?? and last time I checked all these Mukti Morchas were Maoists or a type of Maoists(Sympathizers/Agaist).. Have you ever been inside their offices?? Do you know what they talk about?? Do you also know that they spread Propagandas?? And do you know what these Propogandas are?? Well, if you truely knew what these Morchas stood for, you'd adjust your position in this discussion..(Soon you will find Morchas Killing each other.. I agree with herectic on kill_em_all before they start Inducting) Don't believe what others tell you.. believe what you truly know and if you don't find out yourself..!!


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