A conversation with a preacher
By: heretic (Aashish Dutta Koirala)
People who know me well know that I am a believer and follower of God, and an equally strong HATER of religion. I think religion is an evil, hypocritical practice that misinterprets God in every sense of the word.
Oddly enough, I ran into this Christian preacher in a chatroom!!
So I humored him for a while --- the following is the exact chat transcript. My handle is "Heretic". The preacher is "NEPAL123_366". Read on, people!!
nepal123_366: hi
heretic: hello
nepal123_366: where are you from
heretic: ktm
nepal123_366: ok i am from dehradun
heretic: have you ever noticed that most people are really really ugly
nepal123_366: are you a man or a woman and are you a nepali
heretic: i am a nepali, i am a man
nepal123_366: ok i am a pastor of a church as well as social worker]
heretic: and you're here to "spread the word" are you?
nepal123_366: yes and no I do not mind sharing my faith without imposing my will and faith
nepal123_366: are you a nepali
heretic: well i happen to be a stern follower of god and equally stern hater of religion
heretic: i am of the opinion that religion completely misinterprets god
heretic: and spreads hatred
heretic: and all religion is hypocricy.... but hey! that's just me!! :-)
nepal123_366: that gives me a great opportunity to talk because you are at least frank
nepal123_366: yea it can be the greatest instrument of hate and hypocrisy
nepal123_366: but it can liberate too
heretic: go on
nepal123_366: you can write to me in nict007@gmail.com or nickyt50@hotmail.com
nepal123_366: i found the Lord Jesus and not religion to be liberatng
heretic: oh yes, i'd love to hear about how followers of Jesus burned women at the stake and sent children to slaughter jews
nepal123_366: I do not follow christianity as a religion but a person Jesus
nepal123_366: yes it did happen and this is something I hate too no apology at all
nepal123_366: that is why I said that it can oppress people
nepal123_366: when the meaning is twisted in the hand of selfish peole
nepal123_366: ok you seem to be not a nepali am i right not that it matters to me
heretic: so answer me this: wouldn't you rather have a scenario where jesus did not exist but there was no religion either, and all people followed just "god"?
nepal123_366: but if you are a serious thinkier then come let us discuss
nepal123_366: yea that was the original plan
nepal123_366: no religion no castes no society based on human efforts just God and His creation
nepal123_366: but then what kind of "god" are you talking about
heretic: and "no prophets" and "no preachers"
nepal123_366: what comes in your mind when you say god
nepal123_366: yea exactly
heretic: i know of a force that drives everything... i can feel the presence... i did not need this stupid society to teach me that
nepal123_366: when there is perfect relationship between god and man there is no need for all these peole
nepal123_366: I willbe out of job and rightly so
heretic: nobody likes "middlemen"
nepal123_366: yea what is that force all religion have different answer claiming to be the ABSOLUTE TRUTH and that wi what is troubling
nepal123_366: exactly why should I come in between you and god
nepal123_366: you have not answered one thing are you a nepali or a foreigner
heretic: you seem to be agreeing with everything i say... a lot like the salesmanship of a preacher
heretic: i am a nepali
nepal123_366: oh no i have integrity and I will not lull you into believing me
nepal123_366: no you should not only say things but be convinced with reasearch
heretic: that's hilarious that you think that you even have the capacity to "lull me"
nepal123_366: ok
nepal123_366: I am not claim to be lulling you but you need to know what you believe
nepal123_366: my real concern is people and not converting people to add to my list of conquest
heretic: well, i know i believe in a force that stays with me 24-7, not some propagandist who died 2000 years ago
nepal123_366: what do you do?
heretic: have you heard of chatroom ethics -- viz. not asking for personal details?
nepal123_366: I come to Nepal quite often and will love to meet you if possible
nepal123_366: yea but just go to the pages of New Testament and read
heretic: oh ya i especially love the apocalypse
nepal123_366: whether he was a propogandist or someone who really has concern
nepal123_366: meaning the Revelation
nepal123_366: I am not expert chat wala
heretic: i like christian literature....just the "literature" part
nepal123_366: and if I make mistake please forgive
nepal123_366: no problem
nepal123_366: one of the things we or at least I teach is let the man believe what he wants to believe but then tell him what you believe as well
nepal123_366: we are free created beings
nepal123_366: I am 100 honest with you and have the best of intention
heretic: ok go on
nepal123_366: ok time for me to sign out but check if you realy want to talk to me by email and let me give you one word of advise
heretic: ok gimme ur email agani
nepal123_366: A LIFE UNEXAMINED IS NOT LIVING AND A FAITH NOT EXAMINED IS NOT WORTH BELIEVEING
heretic: alright, the email please...
nepal123_366: NICKYT@HOTMAIL.COM AND NICT007@GMAIL.COM
nepal123_366: HOW OLD ARE YOU
heretic: there you go again with the personal details
nepal123_366: Is this personal
heretic: alright we will keep in touch --- no matter how i much i may hate religion, i love a good discussion
nepal123_366: no no I am 55 year old married and three daughters
heretic: don't worry.... i don't think you're a pedophile :-)
heretic: not that i'm a kid
nepal123_366: discussion is good becasue this will expand our horizon
nepal123_366: I am not
nepal123_366: at all
nepal123_366: and really a genuine Pastor
heretic: ok i will see you then
nepal123_366: Bless you today and read the Bible with an open mind and not with your presumptions
nepal123_366: blessing on you today.
Originally written on October 29, 2005.
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Comments
E-Sense>>>>We have only one religion, the Computer.In fact, it has been so after nineties. People have forgotten Jesus/Buddha/Krsna/Rama/....but have started remembering beaches and bikinis, software and hardware, abstractism and extremism...Fashion and modeling..Marketing and globalization..So, not time to remember God and so no religion.
Own work is religion.There is a saying from some Scripture where god hates his disciple who always chants his name for sake of other really motivated diligent hard-working farmer who always forgets GOD. So, those people follow conservative religion who do not have E-Sense.
E-Sense has no boundaries, no difference, no fear , no hatred,just nothingness which encompasses everything and that is GOD and religion. E-Sense Religion is based on modern economy, science, arts, education,...and never talks about your sins because Physical senses have been given by nature to use them not to hinder them, so nature should be sinner which is impossible. A verse from the great EPIC GITA: Perform your Duty well and GOD is your Slave.
Our Duty is our religion and GOD is slave in IT gadgets controlled by human beings making Human lives easier as each heavenly tick passes by.
Imagine the songs(models visualizing) that reverberate our minds..we do not remember GODs..do We?
Religion is culture and there is only one culture: E-Sense and all other sense are none sense.
By: lpk | November 27, 2006 09:30 PM